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  • By The Age Of 10 She Had Read The Entire American Encyclopaedia Range – Trevor Gear

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast.

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    In case you’re just joining us, you’re listening to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast with Emma Hickins and Travel Gear.

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    It seemed 46, I think she’s now 78 or 79.

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    Okay.

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    She’s recognised for having the highest recorded intelligence in the Guinness Book of Records.

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    She had a score which was actually she went through a test of 228. It was listed in 1985 based on tests taken as a child.

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    She owned the title of the smartest person in the world. She’s a writer and over her marinal-ask-mariling column and her correct analysis of the complex Monty Hall problems.

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    By the age of 10, she could read the entire American encyclopedic range. She had a recorded IQ of 228.810 and she’s still alive.

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    Now the Guinness Book of Records discontinued this particular record in the 90s because mostly people were not formally recorded by a test which this lady was.

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    Even Einstein wasn’t and most others were not. Apparently the Monty Hall controversy in 1990, Marralyne sold the Monty Hall problem.

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    I don’t know what that is. A famous probability puzzle. Her correct answer led to 10,000 letters including many from PhDs arguing against her.

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    She was proved right. The Guinness Book of Records recorded the highest IQ category. It just shows you that even there guys women come out on top.

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    We assume it’s not the case. I think we’re going to be running a short time.

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    But what I want to come on to is people who are punished in society, many with very good reason. We know that.

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    Do we believe that prisoners should receive education?

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    Oh, God’s grace. Education. I’ll write that. Put it as reorientation.

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    As you said earlier, we all come from different backgrounds.

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    The lifestyle, the people we grew up with, what got different orientations.

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    For some, they just think, “Oh, that’s like fast art. It’s been. That’s the way they know it.”

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    They just do it that way. Some of them need reorientation.

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    Most people would tell you that education is limited. In the four walls of the higher institutions, it’s kind of limited.

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    They don’t really teach you everything about life per se. But if you give them some sort of reorientation, they say they’ve come from a different background.

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    But our life is in this part of the world. You give them reorientation, which is a form of education anyway.

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    But I would put it reorientation rather than education. I’ll put it that way.

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    You reorientation. You reorientation. Changing the mindset.

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    Yes. I think that would work more than just putting them in the class. This is A that’s B.

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    They could still hug you. But if you reorientate, they’ll try to change their mindset. I think that would work better.

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    Absolutely. Because really, for many of these people who lose their liberty, it’s a revolving door, isn’t it? They go into prison.

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    They don’t really get much rehabilitation very often. And when they come out, they come out to having no job.

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    They have no CV often, no home. They may experience homelessness. And in the way is that they then figure that it’s better to go back into prison to get food and…

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    And it depends on how the system tags them as COVID. They don’t get jobs.

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    So some of them end up going back to what they know how to do best. Because they’ve never been reorientated.

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    If someone gets a reorientation and he knows what he or she has done, it’s bad. And that’s why it’s been punished.

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    Even if he goes out and there’s no job, he knows that it’s bad. Like capital bad. And my keep away from it.

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    I’ll try to do for all the sorts of livelihood.

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    What about you, Kuz? What do you think should prison have education?

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    Well, I think absolutely everybody should be educated. But like Jerome said, it’s got to be targeted education.

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    You know, targeted towards rehabilitation or reorientation as it’s put it. But it’s still education. You have to educate them.

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    Whether they’re reminders of what they should be doing or whatever. But yeah, I think absolutely you cannot survive without education.

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    Everybody has to be educated, even if it’s just the basic things. Because there’s something called life skills.

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    And these just prepare you for what you’re going to do.

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    We’re going to take a short break now. We’re back shortly. You’ve been listening to the Alien Space Ship talk show with Trevor Gear and Emily Higgins.

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  • But The Action You Take, You Can Control – Jerome John On Actions We Take When We’re Emotional

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast.

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    In case you’re just joining us, you’re listening to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast

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    with Emma Hickins and Travel Gear.

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    The timing won’t come to your mind at certain points because you might be in the, you know,

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    depends on the mood you might be angry and at that point lots of stuff will come to mind.

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    You can’t really control them but the action you take you can control.

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    That’s the way I see it.

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    Yeah and I think what you said there absolutely tell is with what a lot of eminent scientists

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    do say and it’s quite an interesting point because one, one very important part of living

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    in a society, a society has to have rules, regulations because otherwise if people are

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    allowed to do just what they want, I’m wise or in any otherwise, a society couldn’t possibly

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    function.

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    So the question that can sometimes come up about free will, if we don’t actually have

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    much by way of free will, then how can we hold responsible or accountable in society,

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    people who commit crimes and eventually they go to prison.

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    You know, if we don’t have control over what we do, what we are but it just happens and

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    how do we do that?

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    And this is really the point and a lot of neuroscientists, doctors, etc.

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    The view is that in a way people who have got the capacity to do bad things more than the

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    average if you like, they’ve got more free will than the majority because as you rightly

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    say, when they got a notion of doing something that they know they shouldn’t do, and let’s

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    take out things like desperation or whatever, but they know they shouldn’t do it.

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    It’s a criminal act.

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    They actually do have the option of saying, no, I’m not going to do that.

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    So they’re making a free will choice.

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    Whereas as I’ve said before, and as Einstein said, really most of us don’t have that freedom

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    to do those things we would never normally do.

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    So yeah, I think we’ve felt on a very good point there that, you know, free will is something

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    that very hard to define whether we really have it or not.

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    It’s interesting because as I say, Einstein had very strong views on this and there’s a bit

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    of an aside, we all have heard of Marilyn Monroe, haven’t we?

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    And it said, the question was, what did Marilyn Monroe say about Einstein?

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    The famous anecdote claims Marilyn Monroe said to Einstein, would it not be wonderful

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    if we had a child with your brains and my beauty?

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    That’s what she said to Einstein.

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    Einstein has said to her, which way replied, yes, but imagine a child with my beauty and

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    your brains.

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    No.

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    That is obviously quite humorous.

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    An anecdote may or may not be true.

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    Interestingly, something people probably don’t know is that Marilyn Monroe had they reckon

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    that IQ intelligence quotient of 160, which is the same as Einstein.

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    She was actually a very, very intelligent woman and she has quite a history.

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    There have been films written about her and so on.

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    But yeah, they were around together.

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    There were both icons around at the same time, Marilyn Monroe and Albert Einstein.

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    He once said, I’m a determinist.

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    He famously stated, I do not believe in free will, that I believe in free won’t, which I

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    thought was quite an interesting aside.

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    Another aside here, I don’t want to go off tangent too much because we’re leading up to

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    what I said before about how accountable are people in society for the things they do.

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    She has to have rules and punish people, put them in prison, take their liberty away for

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    bad things.

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    But if ultimately people are not fully accountable, then you’ve got a problem.

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    But on this subject, it’s good to get to see what intelligent, highly intelligent people

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    have said about this.

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    This is one such woman.

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    Do you know you probably don’t know, but who is the most intelligent woman ever?

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    In fact, do you know who had the highest

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    recorded intelligence quotient ever?

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    It’s a woman.

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    You probably won’t know her.

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    Funnily enough, she’s another Marilyn, not Marilyn Monroe.

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    Marilyn von Seventh.

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    She was born in 1946.

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    I think she’s now 78 or 79.

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    Okay.

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    She’s recognized for having the highest recorded intelligence in the Guinness Book of Records.

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    She had a score which was actually she went through a test of 228.

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    It was listed in 1985 based on tests taken as a child.

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    And she owned the title of the smartest person in the world.

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    She’s a writer and over her Marilyn, ask Marilyn Column and her correct analysis of the

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    complex Monty Hall problems.

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    Now by the age of 10 she could read the entire, she’d read the entire American encyclopaedic

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    range.

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    She had a record in IQ 228, age 10.

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    And she’s…

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    We’re going to take a short break now.

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  • Neuroscientist Believe 95 Percent Of The Decisions We Make – Trevor Gear On Decision-Making

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast.

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    In case you’re just joining us, you’re listening to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast

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    with Emma Hickins and Travel Gear.

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    Categorically, that and specific experiments allowing further time lapse, that where we were

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    asked to make a decision on something a picture we see or whatever, in turns out the brain

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    has already made our choice, before we’re conscious of that choice.

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    And there’s many experiments which scientists have done to prove this point.

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    Our brain is such an incredible thing.

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    It’s managing all of our systems.

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    It’s something we can’t describe as brilliance.

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    But actually it makes probably neuroscientists believe 95% of the decisions which we make.

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    And if you think about it, that is almost obvious.

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    And I stick with this because it is related.

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    We get up in the mornings, now we all have different lives, we have different things to do.

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    Some will get up, they’re going to go to work.

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    But first they’ll have a cup of tea or cup of coffee.

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    Now they may say to themselves, “I want to see your coffee.”

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    I suspect most of us, we go through the motions, we’re simply spending the first thing in

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    the morning on autopilot as we do much of the day.

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    So we have our coffee or tea, we have our cereal perhaps on toast.

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    And we’re not really consciously making decisions because probably we’ve made those decisions

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    a thousand times.

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    That’s just what we do.

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    It’s autopilot.

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    We then go out, we may be going to work, we may not be.

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    But whatever we do, we may get in the car.

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    It’s all autopilot.

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    And so it goes on through the day.

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    Now, how many times during the day will we make decisions?

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    Well, we will make decisions.

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    Do I cross the road at this point or not?

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    Do I turn left of this junction?

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    Is that quicker?

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    Because there’s traffic up ahead.

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    We make in micro decisions really, but the brain itself is probably leading us on.

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    Now, my next question then, on this free will, if you think we have free will, do you have

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    free will as to what your next thought will be?

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    Can you control your thoughts?

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    What thoughts you’re going to have in the next thought?

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    Especially if you’re not okay.

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    If you’re focusing on something specific, then as we do, we’re reading a book or we’re

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    looking at a particular subject, then that’s going to kind of lead one thought into the next.

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    Well, I might do this.

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    Might do that.

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    But when we’re just sitting there, perhaps not really thinking about much, you might be sitting,

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    having a drink by looking out to the sea, if you buy the seaside or whatever, just not

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    really thinking anything, can you control what thoughts will come into your head?

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    Or are they just planted there?

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    Where do they come from?

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    So if we’ve got the free will to control our thoughts, our thinking.

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    That’s a very good question.

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    I’ll let Geron go first.

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    Are you talking about me?

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    Yeah, Geron, yeah.

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    Okay.

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    Can you just refresh again?

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    Just the question.

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    We’re talking about our thoughts.

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    We said already we kind of live in our head.

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    That’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, that’s, it gets to some

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    You, you, you, you can’t control what comes from within, yeah.

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    But at the same time, taking, taking the action, before you take the action, you can decide

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    Just wake up in the morning.

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    You don’t have milk at home.

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    No job, nothing.

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    You understand?

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    That fulfills the desire.

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    Why would that go shop, please?

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    might be in a, in a, depends on the mood, you might be angry, angry, and at that point, lots

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    You can’t really control them, but the action you think you can control.

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  • Do You Really Have Freewill To Go And Do Whatever You Want? – Trevor Gear On Freewill

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast.

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    In your point you think we have got free will.

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    In fact, just ask yourself, do you really have free will to do anything you want?

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    Could you really go and do anything?

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    Because if in fact you would never ever do that no matter what the circumstances, then

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    you don’t have the free will to do that.

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    Do you know that you do not see that?

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    No, I don’t actually.

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    This is, now I thought I was confused but now I think I get it now.

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    So we have free will.

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    Sometimes your mind could be corrupted.

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    Maybe under the influence of a substance, a liquid, whatever it could corrupt your mind.

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    And then what happens to that free will that you are talking about.

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    It goes out of the window, don’t you?

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    Because you can then literally do whatever you want.

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    Under the influence of drink driving people that would normally not drive a car recklessly

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    would.

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    And that’s a free will.

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    You chose to have that drink.

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    You’ve chose to get behind that car and you’ve chose to drive it.

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    That’s free will.

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    Because without the drink otherwise you would have been able to be a good driver.

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    But under the influence of a drink or alcohol you are not a good driver.

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    But you still have that free will.

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    You could choose to have left that car at home.

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    While you know your intentions.

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    You know what?

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    I’m going out and I’m going to have a good time.

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    You could leave the car at home.

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    When you choose not to leave the car at home, that’s free will.

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    So yes, we do have free will.

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    How we choose to use our free will is entirely up to us.

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    Yeah, I mean what you’ve described there is, should we say, mental incapacitation because

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    most scientists agree, most neurosciences agree that if we have free will at all is a pretty

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    limited extent.

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    Because of the factors we talked about.

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    In other words, people’s environment, they’re upbringing and most things we would never do.

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    It’s only bad things because that’s not within our constitution to do that.

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    But one of the exceptions I’ve said is desperation.

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    If you were really putting in an impossible situation in life where it’s life or death for

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    you or your family, then people can go outside of what they may know is right or wrong in

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    desperation.

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    Another one is mental incapacity, either mental illness or drugs, perhaps illegal drugs or

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    alcohol.

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    Then people on get drunk, are capable of doing stuff.

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    They would never do in ordinary circumstances.

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    You read this sometimes on an aeroplane that somebody has gone berserk.

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    They’ve been drunk and threatening passengers and crew and everything else.

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    And they usually get punished quite severely by the courts.

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    They say, “I can’t remember any of it.

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    It’s all hazy.

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    I did have some drink and so on.”

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    So yeah, that’s an exception to the rule of free will.

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    But it does remain the fact that whether we like it or not, I mean, just to look at some

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    of the scientists say, whether humans have free will is a deeply contested, unresolved

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    debate across philosophy, science and theology, many argue it’s an illusion driven by a determined

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    realistic biological environmental factors, which is what we’ve said.

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    One others argue for compatibilism that rational agency exists despite deterministic forces.

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    And another exception people try and say is, well, the brain is such a complicated, incredible

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    organ beyond anything we could ever describe.

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    In itself makes us potentially unpredictable.

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    And if we’re unpredictable, then in a sense that that’s where free will can really manifest

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    So there’s a lot of contention on this.

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    Now in fact, if we look at what someone like Einstein says, “I’m fine, and this law of this

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    links into IQ and intelligence, really, I suppose, has to do with the brain.”

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    He was a staunch determinist who believed that free will is an illusion.

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    He argued that human actions are dictated by prior causes such as nature, nurture and

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    the law of physics.

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    Meaning we cannot control our desires or actions, but merely act on them.

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    And there’s also a case where experiments have shown quite categorically that, and specific

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    experiments allowing further time lapse, that where we’re asked to make a decision on something

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    a picture we see or whatever, in turns out the brain has already made our choice.

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    Before we’re conscious of that choice.

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    And there’s many experiments which scientists have done to prove this point.

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    Our brain is such an incredible thing.

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    It’s managing all of our systems.

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    It’s something we can’t describe as brilliance.

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    But actually, it makes probably neuroscientists believe 95% of the decisions which we make.

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    And if you think about it, that is almost obvious.

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    And I stick with this because it is related.

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    We get up in the morning because now we all have different lives.

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    We have different things to do.

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    Some will get up.

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    We’re going to take a short break now.

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  • Nah Am I Confusing Myself Right Now – Jerome John On Explaining Freewill As A Concept

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast.

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    In case you’re just joining us, you’re listening to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast

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    with Emma Hickins and Travel Gear.

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    Any free will as people, as humans?

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    We’ve got rights and needs, right to breed.

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    Now, am I confusing myself?

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    How do I put this?

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    I think we do, but I think I would just say it’s limited.

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    Let me just put it that way.

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    So I don’t get confused in the process of trying to explain or go further down.

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    Yeah, that’s a good way to put it.

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    It’s limited.

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    What I think we’re talking about is do we really have impractical terms, not necessarily

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    theoretical terms, because theoretically, I could go out and get in my car and say, I

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    think I’ll drive on the wrong side of the road today just for the hell of it, or all

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    sorts of things that we could theoretically do.

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    So what I’m suggesting is that in fact, what so impacts our own sense of free will is so

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    many things.

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    You can go right back to our childhood, where and when we were born, the environments we were

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    here now are upbringing the sort of family we had, the forces of influence upon us as we’ve

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    developed as a human being.

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    Now, the question I was going to ask at this point, so I will ask it.

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    I’ll start with you, because do you think anybody is capable of anything, whether it’s good

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    or bad, do you think if you feel we have free will, which you do, does that mean that you

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    feel you are capable of doing anything good or bad, because that’s kind of the definition

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    of free will.

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    You can do exactly what you want to do.

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    Yes, you are, you can do whatever you want to do.

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    You are capable of doing whatever you want to do.

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    Well, whether it’s good or bad, this is what I have to say, I would disagree with that,

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    because most people, I guess, in society, we’re all different.

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    Everyone is unique.

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    I mean, that’s another almost paradoxical statement.

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    Everyone is unique, just like everyone else, which contradicts itself.

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    But we are all unique.

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    But it’s fair to say, I think, that a majority of humans, a majority of people, would never

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    go out and mock somebody, would never go and steal their phone or worse, would never go

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    and murder somebody.

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    Now, I think under what you’re saying is, you’re saying, well, I have got the free will

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    I don’t know.

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    Take some stuff from a shop and not pay.

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    Do some shoplifting.

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    I’ve got the free will to do that.

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    And theoretically, I think you’re right.

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    You have.

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    We all have, but in practical terms, and if I know you at all, that will be the last thing

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    you, or Jerome, or I, would ever do.

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    It’s not within our constitution.

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    It’s not within our makeup to actually go out and try and harm somebody.

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    Or to steal something we wouldn’t drive to a petrol station, fill up our car and drive off,

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    although apparently that’s something that is happening more and more in these economic

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    times and the war that’s going on, which is not to be justified.

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    But that’s one exception, perhaps, where people may step outside of their upbringing, their

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    environment, or the things that they were told to write and wrong, because maybe sometimes

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    desperation can creep in and force somebody into a situation where they would do something

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    that they would never otherwise do.

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    I mean, an extreme perhaps example of that would be if a mother or father can’t feed their

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    children, they may well go out and steal some food, and with some, you know, because to them

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    So can you see what I’m saying, Cuz, on your point, you think we have got free will?

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    Do you not see that?

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    So we have free will, right?

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    Sometimes your mind could be corrupted, right?

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  • So I’m Thinking Saying My Truth Is Saying My Side Of The Story – Jerome John Of 2 Sided Story

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast.

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    In case you’re just joining us, you’re listening to the Alien Space Sheep Talk Show podcast with Emma Hickins and Travel Gear.

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    Several sites are a story.

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    Yeah?

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    So, there are two of more people involved in an incident.

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    Each of them has to say the other side of the story.

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    So, I’m thinking saying the truth is, saying your side of the story.

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    That’s the way I see it.

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    Yeah, I think there’s a very good way to put it.

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    I think it recognizes this idea of my truth.

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    It may not be worldly truth or universal truth, but it’s my truth as I see the world.

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    It recognizes how actually all of us live in our own minds.

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    The world is always from, it can only be from our perspective because our existence,

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    everything we perceive and feel is from within our own minds.

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    And actually sometimes that can be slightly stressful to think everything’s going on in our heads.

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    And we just interpret things we see around us.

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    But yeah, we know how to react to things.

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    And as I say, my truth, my knowledge is that this is how I see the world.

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    And maybe sometimes we need that. We can be a bit vulnerable, so we can be a bit therapeutic by talking about my truth.

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    And it kind of leads us into my next subject, really, which is related to this.

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    And that is free will.

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    Now, we have touched on this a few times before.

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    Free will.

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    Now, I’ll ask you the straight question, both of you first of all.

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    Because you first, do you think we as humans actually have free will?

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    Yes, I do, I do think we do have free will.

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    Yeah.

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    Now, this is, we do have free will.

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    But it’s then limited by the laws of nature.

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    What does that mean?

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    Well, if you see a free will, if you have free will, your free will is limited.

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    And his limit is about the laws of gravity.

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    There’s over all these over the laws that limit, ordinarily limit what you can’t do.

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    For instance, you can’t fly off a mountain, for instance, and expect to land on your feet.

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    And the feet might be sharp.

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    Of course.

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    I believe you.

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    Sorry, so I don’t mean to interrupt you, carry on.

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    But just to say, when I say free will, I mean, within the realms of possibility of things that can be done, I agree.

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    Anything that’s outside of possibility because of nature or facts of life.

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    And of course, we can’t just suddenly decide to fly off somewhere ourselves.

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    But yeah, I’m talking about within the bounds of what is possible.

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    Do you think humans actually have free will to make choices to do just what we want to do without any second thought, really?

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    Is that what you’re saying you believe?

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    Yeah, I do believe we have the free will to do whatever we want to do.

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    Without a second thought, thought actually because, you know, something, some actions of voluntary of it.

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    But yeah, am I making sense?

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    Do you own what do you think, Jerome? Do we have free will?

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    On the contrary, though I’ve had the saying this through will, but on the contrary, I think it’s…

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    I call it a bit limited, or should I say, the sad thing is even if you want to do, yeah, you have to consider the law of the land.

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    Yeah.

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    And put other things into consideration.

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    So by so doing, would I say it’s free? Can I count that as free will?

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    No, because you have to put other things into consideration before you do it.

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    You’ve got a right to speak, yeah?

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    But it is, don’t forget, there is libels, lander and sedition.

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    If I’m not wrong, this is us.

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    Yeah, we’ve got a right to speak, but there’s libitation.

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    So I wouldn’t say we’ve got free will.

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    That’s right, that’s my take.

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    Yeah, I think it’s interesting.

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    So would you say we don’t really have any free will as people, as humans?

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    We’ve got a right to live, right to breathe.

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    Now, am I confusing myself?

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    How do I put this?

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    I think we do, but I think I would just say it’s limited.

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    Let me just put it that way, so I don’t get confused and the process of trying to explain our goal further down.

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    Yeah, that’s a good way to put it, you think it’s limited.

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    What I think we’re talking about is, do we really have impractical terms, not necessarily theoretical terms, because theoretically, you know, I could go out.

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  • Basically If It’s True It’s False And If It’s False It’s True – Trevor Gear On Some Contradictions

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    Welcome back to the Alien Space ship talk show podcast.

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    we’ll listen to the Alien Space ship talk show podcast with American’s Emily.

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    Then obviously it contradicts itself because the statement says everything I say is a lie.

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    Right, now if that statement is not true, in other words everything I say is a lie is not true,

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    then it also contradicts the statement.

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    So it’s one of those paradoxes which basically if it’s true it’s false and if it’s false it’s true.

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    So it just doesn’t work.

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    Now there’s another very quite well known paradox called the crocodile paradox.

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    And I’ll be interested in your views on this.

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    Now there’s a crocodile at the zoo and there’s a lady with a little boy.

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    Now sadly the crocodile manages to grab the little boy and happy has this little boy sort of in its jaws

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    but it’s a clever crocodile because it can talk and he sees the alarm on the lady’s face on the mother’s face.

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    So he says, “Look, if you tell me correctly whether I’m going to keep the boy and possibly eat him

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    or give him back to you, then I will return the boy.”

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    Okay, so she’s given her two options to choose.

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    Either the crocodile will keep an eat the little boy or he’ll return the boy to the mother.

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    Now what she thinks as well, what can I say here?

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    What she decides after thinking about it she’ll say, “I think you’ll keep the boy.”

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    She’ll keep an eat him terrible thing for her to have to say.

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    Now that gives the crocodile a dilemma and this is where the paradox comes in.

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    So the mother has said, “I think you’re going to keep an eat my little boy.”

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    So the crocodile thinks, “Well, if I actually do keep the little boy and eat him, then the mother is right

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    and I said I will give him back if she was right.”

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    So he said, “That obviously something that wouldn’t work.”

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    He said, “But if I do actually give the little boy back, then the mother was wrong in her choice of what I would do.

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    And if she was wrong I was going to eat him.”

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    Can you see the paradox that’s there?

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    By giving her those choices, the creative himself, the crocodile, an impossible situation

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    and there’s quite a lot of these sort of paradoxes of words on a little story like that.

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    I mean, kind of deal with truth, untruth and so on.

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    I mean, you could say something somebody might say is the word impossible is not in my vocabulary.

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    Well, clearly it is, isn’t it? Because I’ve used it in a sentence.

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    The only rule is that there are no rules.

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    Well, again, that’s a bit of a contradiction because that fact is there’s a rule which says there’s no rules.

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    So this kind of leads us a little bit into truth. What ultimately is truth?

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    Now, we all know these days that people seem to say, “This is my truth.”

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    A lot of famous people say that, “Don’t make this is my truth.”

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    So, Kuz, you first of all, what do you think people mean when they talk about my truth?

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    I think they just say it.

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    I think what they say is, “This is what I believe.”

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    So they’re not really saying, “This is my truth.” They own the truth.

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    I don’t know, it’s confusing.

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    I’ve managed to confuse myself now.

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    You’ve confused me because you’ve now put a situation where I don’t know if this is going on live.

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    There’s about six of me going up a staircase, the nearer of the top.

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    Anyway, that’s beside the point.

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    But yeah, you have confused yourself and I think you’ve confused me.

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    So what exactly do you mean then?

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    When people say, “This is my truth.” You just simply say that’s how I feel about something.

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    Is that what you’re saying?

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    Yeah, that’s how I feel about it.

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    This is my take on it.

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    Let’s put it that way.

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    That’s a good way to put it.

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    What about you, Jerome?

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    What do you think?

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    I think they’re just trying to say, “The outside of the story of the event or whatever.”

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    But that’s taking place.

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    That’s the way I see it.

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    Someone trying to say, “Easter,” just trying to say, “Easter” in the story.

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    I think it recognizes this idea of my truth.

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    It may not be worldly truth or universal truth, but it’s my truth as I see the world.

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    It recognizes how actually all of us live in our own minds.

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    The world is always from, it can only be from our perspective because our existence,

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    everything we perceive and feel is from within our own minds.

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  • If I Say This To You, “Everything I Say Is A Lie” – Trevor Gear Introduces Paradoxes And Freewill

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    Welcome onboard to the Alien Space Ship Talk Show Emmy Hikins, Trevor Gear and Femi Madariola

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    A podcast where no topic is off limits, fastening a seatbelt, stick the cat along, your

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    ring for a bumpy ride. So sit back, relax and enjoy the show.

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    Ah, right, okay, finally. Breath, do you want to do the open introduction for us please?

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    Yes indeed, well welcome along. Last two weeks, what’s the cast called the Alien Space

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    Ship where we discuss all sorts of things. Hopefully you’ll find some of it of interest.

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    I’m Trevor Gear and he calls me, Bruv. And I’m Emmy Hikins and he calls me Cuz.

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    And yeah, joining today is Jerome from Ramboom. Yeah, so right, Jerome. All the way from Birmingham

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    and we’re live. Right, so, Breath, paradoxes. Yeah. Yeah, well we’ll see if we can touch

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    on three things. Really, paradoxes, free will, truth. So we’ll see how far we get with

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    it. But we’ve looked at a few paradoxes before because some of them may be can’t really

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    be true. They can’t exist. So if I say to you this statement, everything I say is a lie.

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    Now, can you do you think that’s a logical thing to say and tell me what you think is. Incidentally,

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    I can’t really see you. I’ve only got your sign in stuff for what we were doing before,

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    but I guess that doesn’t matter. Alright, I’m going to minute. Oh, I need to stop this

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    share. That’s probably being shared live as well. Oh, dear, man. So stop sharing. Let’s

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    see that. Let’s see that. No, it’s not sharing actually. So I’m surprised. Yeah, it’s not.

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    Can you see me, Jerome? Yeah, I can see you at the very top. You’re half hidden, but my main

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    screen is signing to VK what you were doing before. I mean, if we can’t change it, don’t worry.

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    Alright, I’m going to close that. Oh, yeah. Um, signing to VK. Alright, so let me see. Let me see

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    how we can do that. Okay. It’s very well. It’s strange. Now, if I quit Safari, that’s

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    strange that you can see signing to VK. What can you see now? Oh, we got something else to do with it.

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    Okay, that’s strange. Because you’re not, we’re not even, it’s not even showing, I’m going to

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    exit for when. What about now? Can you still see signing VK? It’s a different page, but it’s still

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    down. It’s still to do with what we were looking at before. Wow, that’s strange. Okay. I’m

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    wondering. May just have to leave it. It’s strange. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we’ll just carry on. Let’s see.

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    Okay, well, let’s just carry on then. And I’ll come back to the question I asked you. I asked you both.

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    Right. Does this sentence make sense? Is it a possible

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    sentence that does make sense? Everything I say is a liar. Can that be true? We’re talking about

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    truth as well here. Can that statement be true? Everything I say is a liar.

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    I think it’s, I think it’s, I think it’s true. I believe everything you say is a lie. So

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    there we go. Are you taking that question seriously?

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    Everything I say is a lie. What about you Jerome? Do you think that sentence? Does that sentence

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    make sense? It for me it doesn’t because it doesn’t for me doesn’t because there’s no way you would have

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    come to someone the wrong good morning cause and it’s definitely morning. So not everything,

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    there’s no way everything you would have said would be a lie. Yeah. Yeah. No. Let’s say comment.

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    That’s true. But the other thing about it is if how can I say this? If everything I say is a lie,

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    if that statement is true, then obviously it contradicts itself because the statement says

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    everything I say is a lie. Right. Now if that statement is not true, in other words,

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    everything I say is a lie is not true. And it also contradicts the statement. So it’s one of those

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    paradoxes which basically if it’s true, it’s false and if it’s false, it’s true. So it just doesn’t

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    work. Now there’s another very quite well known paradox called the crocodile paradox.

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    And I’d be interested in your views on this. Now there’s a crocodile at the zoo and there’s a

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    lady with her little boy. Now sadly the crocodile manages to grab the little boy and he has this

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    little boy sort of in its jaws but it’s a clever crocodile. We’re going to take a short break now,

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    we’re back shortly. You’ve been listening to the Alien Space Ship talk show with Trevor Gear

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